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Ustinovskaya, Yekaterina |
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Kurbatova, Christina |
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Grishin, Alexey |
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Panteleev, Denis |
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Ustinovskaya, Yekaterina |
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N. Lyubimov, A. Rozovskaya, M. Shumsky, M. Kazarinova, and others tell about the events |
Written by Àëåêñàíäð Ðîõëèí, Àëñó Ãóçàèðîâà, Íàòàøà Àôàíàñüåâà, Ïàâåë Ðûáêèí | |
Ñóááîòà, 25 Îêòÿáðü 2003 | |
By Alexander Rochlin, Alsu Guzairova, Natasha Afanaseva, and Pavel Rybkin 25.10.2003 Not long ago, just 12 months, 129 people died during the hostage rescue operation in the DK (Palace of Culture) on Dubrovka. It is still unclear if these losses could have been prevented, and the government is silent on this account, so we turned to people who lived through this nightmare and asked them to narrate how it has changed their life and how they have been doing for the last year. Nikolai Alexeevich Lyubimov, age The story of my year? For me it began as it did for all the ‘northeasters’, on October 23rd. I came to work in my guard booth, and at 9 p.m. or so I became a hostage of the Chechens. I sat in the 12th row, all the way to the right. On the 26th there was the assault and poisoning with the gas. Coma. I ended up in Veteran’s Hospital #1. My pulse was 40, respiration was 3 per minute, and my blood pressure was 60 over 20. I was dead. At first it was dark, and later these orange words flashed by: ‘massage’, ‘adrenalin’, all that the doctors were saying was fluorescing there in front of me. Finally one doctor bent over me, picked up my eyelids, took a look and sighed: “That’s it, get him ready for the morgue.” And here I am flying up through a tunnel and all around was this Though my body was not the same as before: the whole left side is gone. My left arm hangs like a big sausage, and my left leg can barely walk. They discharged me on November 18th and I am still making the weary rounds of doctors. I do not enjoy being sick, and before these events I was full of strength and energy. I just figured that I had to work while my legs could still carry me, but now I am suddenly a cripple. I had three months on sick leave, and then they sent me to the agency and assigned me handicapped status, and on that same very day this February they fired me from the DK. This summer I filed two lawsuits in the Tverskoy court: compensation for psychological damages, and restoration of lost income. Neither one has yet been satisfied, but I found out a lot about myself during the court sessions. For example, that I am sticking my hand in the pocket of all retirees and invalids, that is, with my lawsuits I was even robbing myself. But after all, they stole my health and took away my job. I asked for three thousand rubles (about $110 – ed.), not the 1800 that I am getting now, of which I have to use 1500 for medicine. They smashed the Alexandra Rozovskaya, age 15, who played young Katya Tatarinova in the musical: For the past year my progress in school has not changed. I used to get 3’s (C’s – ed.) in chemistry and I still do. On the other hand, I get a lot of 5’s (A’s – ed.) in literature. Now I am thinking about what educational institution to attend after 11th grade. There are several choices. Dad wants me to go to the actor’s college, and mom talks about the journalism school, while grandma says I should learn to be a synchronous translator. I find all these very interesting, but I have doubts about a career as an actress. After all, if one is to be an actress, then they must be famous, but I am not 200 percent certain that I can make it. I have been forgetting the details of When they sent the gas into the auditorium, my girlfriend and I ripped to pieces an old dress that I had brought in. We gave pieces to those around us and wet them with water and put them over our noses. We were sitting in the balcony. I wrapped myself in the wet rag and laid face down on the floor. My girlfriend Kristina was lying on her back. I remember that at one moment her hand together with the material slipped from her face. It seemed that she had simply fallen asleep, but later it was determined that Kristina had died. My cousin Senya also died at Dubrovka. I miss him a lot. It has already been a year, but it always seems to me that I will meet him again soon, and this endless waiting torments me. After the hostages were freed many said that it had been easier for the children there than for the adults, since we did not understand anything. This is not true. It seems to me that children catch on to some things quicker than adults. For example, it is still unclear to me why the Americans have lost fewer people in Desert Storm than were killed during our rescue. I still do not understand why they injected me in the neck when giving me first aid, but then gave my friends shots in the arm or leg. And someone had the treatment three or four times, and other people were simply forgotten about. When I came home after the hospital, none of my classmates or friends called me. This was very annoying, but later it turned out that a psychologist had told them not to bother me. For a long time, whenever someone outside would walk pass the windows of our classroom, I caught myself thinking that at any moment they would come inside and take us hostage. I would think about which direction I would run and how best to stack the desks on top of each other to barricade the door. I also dreamed about Red Square being captured. Now I have begun to better understand my mother. Before, whenever we were to head out to the dacha and I wanted to stay home alone, if she did not excuse me I would get angry. I asked what could happen? Now I do not ask such questions anymore. Mikhail Vyacheslavovich Shumsky, age 36, violoncellist: One of the main events of the year following Another event of this year – I sat down and seriously learned how to use a computer, and then the entire family did. At the end of February I bought one and realized that it was that I really needed. A real gamer computer with all the fixings: an Now I am working in the Presidential Orchestra of Russia. Our director, Pavel Borisovich Ovsyannikov, wrote a remarkable ballet that was commissioned by Thailand’s ministry of culture, titled: “Katya and the Prince of Siam”. It is about how a Siamese prince at the beginning of the last century is attending a military academy here and falls in love with some Katya, but later he is summoned home to rule. Well, the lovers must part: Katya is not allowed to go to Siam. Such Alexander M. (who asked that his surname not be used) was a sergeant in the rapid reaction force and took part in the hostage rescue operation: I was serving in the interior ministry forces, so such nighttime What did I experience? Fear. Cold. For practically three days I did not sleep, I only got two or three hours of shuteye in a bus, and that was it. Hunger. The Red Cross, thanks to them are in order, they organized a feeding point, but the police mostly got to take advantage of it: soldiers could not leave their combat post without orders. All the commercial stores in the area jacked up their prices. I would have to say that my respect for the merchants in the capital has dropped a bit: business is one thing, of course, that is clear, but this is crap, making a living on misfortune. The members of parliament were very annoying. Okay, Kobzon, he was the first to arrive, he went over and he really got some useful results. Then later the parade started. Everyone who was not too lazy tried to show off for the cameras, instead sitting on their fat asses where they were supposed to be. Instead of keeping track of the captured building and the hostages, we stayed busy guarding these fools who were putting on their own little shows. I personally chased Ampilov away with a kick in the pants. Well, but when the assault began, we got the order: everyone who comes out of the building – knock them to the ground and search them, to find the “Czechs” (Chechens). We wait. No one comes out. Only one woman came out and immediately she fell on her back. When I went inside the building I saw a girl lying there unconscious, so I carried her out. I went inside a second time and I found myself getting woozy. After all, they had not warned us that they had used gas. Later I was lying in the hospital, getting over the results of the intoxication. I had only a month until But later I understood that I could not live as before. I knew for certain that you are either with them, or against them. Like my comrades in arms, I have left the ‘Pepsi Generation’ and I do not care anymore about discotheques and rock concerts. You know, I never went to Tushino (military museum and open air concert hall – ed.), and neither did my friends, because we knew that such mass gatherings were dangerous. Nowadays I cannot accept girls my age as simply girls: I see them as helpless beings that can become victims at any moment. So I decided to stay in the army. It is true, you cannot live on Maryana Konstantinovna Kazarinova, age 32, orchestral musician: Everyone sitting to my right died. They fell into some sort of a stupor: they would not talk with anyone, or do anything, or even want anything. We would shake them, but then they would once again fall asleep with their eyes open. At a certain moment I also understood that it was the end. It was simple and without emotion: here is death, and here I am. But later I decided that if I stop on this thought, if I was to keep thinking it, with spittle dribbling out of my mouth, then it really would kill me. Then I just shook myself and moved away from it. I just ceased to feel like I was inside the events. It was, after all, a show, a stupid, awful show. People were walking on stage. They would shoo, and shout and smile and pull out bombs. I made as if I was not participating in any of it, that none of it had anything to do with me. Sometimes, of course, it would break down: how is mama, papa, what is going to happen to me? But I forced myself to not think about, and to live as if I was someone else. Almost the entire orchestra, 24 people, was sitting in the second row in the stalls (the main auditorium – ed.) The whole time we were playing cards. We played ‘sea battle’ and those stupid ‘clubs and zeros’ and laughed ourselves sick. And the fear went away. Oh, how mad I was at those bastards with the assault rifles, damn their eyes! They acted very courteous with the frightened people, took care of them, talked with them and filled their heads full of nonsense. They read them these prayers in Arabic that supposedly opened up the road to paradise. But they would not let me use the toilet: they sensed that I was not afraid of them. The last night, when I was ready to piss myself, I got up without permission and went down into the pit. By the way, I woke up everybody to my left while I was getting out of the row. Perhaps this is why they survived the assault. But when it was all over, when I woke up that first morning at home, I decided that I had just had a normal, though very long, nightmare. And once again I just moved away from it, from the events. Nothing had happened to me. It is funny, but I did not lose anything: my clothes or my instrument or my money, just the SIM card for my cell phone. The gas did not work on me and I walked out of the building on my own two feet. Nothing inside changed… almost. I understood that life was a fragile thing. That it is as easy to break as a fingernail. But my earlier fear never returned. This year I went kayaking down river rapids not even knowing how to swim, and even though I have been afraid of heights since childhood, I went parachuting. I still cross the street on a red light. But when I see a woman in Arab national clothing, I shrink inside and think: “Now I’m going to die.” Elena Anatolevna Prostomolotova, office manager whose daughter and grandson were hostages (her daughter Alexandra Ryabova perished): I hate this country. I hate the government that spits on us. I hate Pugacheva and her The tickets to the musical were a present to my grandson on his 14th birthday. We were all autumnal: my daughter was born in September, and ‘Lyosha’ in October, and mine is November. I remember how those The last time I talked with my daughter was at midnight of October I looked for my daughter’s body for two days. On the lists of the dead were four Alexandra Ryabovas, and there was also a Ryabtseva and a Ryabushkina. For two days I drove around, showing her picture to medics and asking: “Is she here?” I only recognized my daughter from her fingernail polish and her permanent – her face was that swollen. Before they would give Sasha to me they demanded that I sign a statement: “The body was given out without a right to a repeat exhumation”. None of the other relatives of the dead hostages signed anything like this, and I know this for a fact. They probably shot her. When they gave me her things I found a little notebook inside her passport. She had written in it. Here, for example: “To Dima Ryabov! Dima, don’t abandon the child, help mama! Sasha, 12:01 a.m.” Dima Ryabov is Lyosha’s father, and Sasha and he are divorced. Or this: “Mamochka, I’ll be at peace if Lyoshka is with you. Kisses.” Apparently she already knew that she would die. I am still keeping the notebook in Sasha’s passport. Together with a clipping from the paper, an interview I did with Barbara Brylskaya: “My life ended with that of my daughter”. But I do not allow myself physical death: I have a grandson. For a year after I am very thankful to the banker Vasily Shachlovsky. He helped Lyosha get into a good school and he sends him 300 dollars a month. This man was among the entrepreneurs who wanted to help the victims, and Lyosha especially inspired him. He said: “I was an orphan at 14, too.” Now we are getting ready to move to a new apartment and are packing up our things. We cannot live here, because everything reminds us of Sasha. I am saving up to buy her a marker, but for now there is just a tablet on her grave, like all the others. Alexander Mikhailovich Telenkov, age During those days when the assault occurred I was the head of the duty shift for the western district rescue unit. That evening, on orders of the chief, a reserve unit of rescuers arrived at the base and it was sent out to the theatrical center. At about half past five they called us to go there, together with crews of rescuers from other units in the city. At night the roads were free and we got to the theatrical center in about 15 minutes. Just as soon as the special forces finished their work, we were ordered to start the evacuation, and they explained: “The victims need to be carried out into the fresh air immediately.” When I ran into the auditorium, it was deadly quiet: people with ashen faces were sitting in the chairs, not breathing. But they had no wounds, and no one had shot them. It was clear that we could not do resuscitation in the hall: you could sense the choking smell of some kind of a gas. We started right away working according to the “grab and carry” principle: we carried the victims out onto the porch and handed them over to the medics, the physicians from the rescue teams. Neither I nor any of my colleagues have flashbacks to this. I can tell you that if I thought about all the dead I saw in my line of work, then long ago I would have ended up in the nut house. Every rescue team member in Moscow has maybe two or three out of ten that cannot be saved. Car crashes. Gas explosions. Drownings. Suicides. Transport accidents. I am not impressionable, and I cannot say that it is some kind of a psychosis. Like the academician Pavlov said, temperament is in the genes, and that is how it is with me. Murat Artavevich Novruzbekov, a surgeon of the Sklifosovsky Institute: Early on the morning of September (sic) 24th several groups of doctors of various specialties were sent to duty at Veteran’s Hospital #1. Firstly, we were astonished by Honestly speaking, I remember a lot of disorder, a very serious type of confusion. They were little things, but to educated specialists they say a lot. It was basically impossible to get to the hospital: the entrance was so narrow that only one vehicle could pass, and there was no way to back up for oncoming traffic. If the ambulances were to come all at once, then it would be a traffic jam. And really, that’s how it turned out: when there was a massive influx, then the vehicles just got all bottled up. As soon as we got there they were ordering us about: unload right here. We start to unload, and some soldiers run up: “Are you crazy! Stop! This is a zone of (combat) fire, get out of here!” We were in general poorly informed. Really, the readiness was at “number one”, but we were preparing for an influx of victims with surgical pathologies: explosives trauma and gunshot wounds. But in fact of the several hundred victims we only operated on two, and all the others needed a completely different kind of assistance. It would have sufficed to prepare in advance several sets of respirators, and then a lot more people could have survived. When the arrival of mass casualties with signs of hypoxia and asphyxia began, we did all that we could with our bare hands. There was no difference in who was a specialist or who was a resuscitator, who was a surgeon or a doctor of science or who was a bureaucrat – everyone went to work. But when it was all over, when we got information on how many had died, it was a shock. The reports tormented us: the operation was successful. I agree, had there been an explosion, the deaths would have been much greater. But to report about a successfully conducted operation when due such poor organization 127 people died? I just cannot get this into my head! I was astonished by the relationship between the special services people. I never saw any kind of cooperation between the services at all: they literally gnawed at each other. And swore. They brought a patient with gunshot wounds into the OR, and during the operation we removed a bullet. We were to hand this over to the detectives. But then everyone grabbed for it: the FSB, the MVD, and the prosecutor’s office! There was almost a fistfight over who was going to take the bullet. The FSB went about with their noses out of joint: “You doctors!” and cursed us. We asked the young men to show us some ID so that we could write down to whom we gave the bullet, but they said: “Go to Hell!” and all but gave us a rifle butt to the head.
If this were to happen again, then at least we already have some experience, but I am certain that it will be confusion all over again. After a year not a thing has changed – neither in the agencies nor in the methods for providing assistance. Yes, and they steal everything like they did before. But either way, somebody has to save people. Elena Olegovna Lazebnaya, senior scientific worker with the RAN Psychological Institute, a specialist in post-traumatic stress disorders (PTSD): The events of October When a person undergoes a trauma he tries as soon as possible to forget about it, to force the worries into his subconscious. But since the pain does not completely leave, he becomes excitable, aggressive, and seeks to get away from society. Often the families of patients with post-traumatic stress disorders fall apart, the victims lose their jobs and they develop a dependence on alcohol and narcotics. They try to commit suicide. This is already a serious societal problem. In our country there has never been a scientific examination of PTSD, whereas in Australia researchers have determined that
What should society do in this situation? We have already learned the first lesson; we have changed regulations governing the mass media and limited the accessibility of information available for live broadcast. What the press published about the assault on the DK on Dubrovka should have been categorically forbidden. They never should have been allowed to show scenes from the auditorium with the unconscious hostages, and they never should have shown close ups of the dead bodies of terrorists. This gave even me goose bumps. Right now society must give the participants of As far as material support, there is a mountain of suffering. Among the audience at the musical were two of my students. All year long I worked with them: we remembered what went on, and we tried to show how they distinguished themselves there in the theater. There turned out to be quite a lot: they helped the weak, they helped young children, and they did not panic. Since these girls are getting better, I would recommend this method for other victims and their loved ones: talk, talk, talk about I would like to note that what the hostages at |
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